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May 12, 2022
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Meet Amy O’Brien

Amy O’Brien serves because the World head of Accountable Investing (RI) at Nuveen, a cash supervisor with over $1.3 trillion in property underneath administration. In her position, Amy leads a 20+ member staff and is accountable for making a holistic RI imaginative and prescient and unified framework throughout Nuveen and its proprietor TIAA, the Lecturers Insurance coverage and Annuity Affiliation of America. All through her 25-year profession in RI, Amy has labored on a variety of environmental, social and governance (ESG) and impression investing initiatives throughout TIAA. Amy has served on the Boards of the Social Funding Discussion board (SIF), the Investor Duty Analysis Middle Institute for Company Duty (IRRCi) and the Steering Committee of the World Initiative for Sustainability Rankings (GISR). In 2018, she was recognized by Barron’s as one of the crucial influential folks in ESG investing.

What’s in This Episode?

With $1.3 trillion in property underneath administration (AUM), Nuveen swings a reasonably large bat so far as cash managers go, and it has been within the recreation since 1898. At the moment, it is wholly owned by TIAA, the Lecturers Insurance coverage and Annuity Affiliation of America. Its portfolio consists of mutual funds, trade traded funds (ETFs), together with 12 ESG-related ETFs, personal fairness, farmland, mounted revenue, and a number of other different asset courses. And Nuveen takes its accountable investing objectives severely. Amy O’Brien is the World Head of Accountable Investing (RI) at Nuveen, and she or he’s been within the SRI and ESG area her complete profession. She’s additionally our visitor on The Inexperienced Investor this week. Welcome, Amy.

Amy:

Thanks, Caleb. It is nice to be right here with you.

Caleb:

Nicely, your job title sort of speaks for itself, however I am certain there’s a lot of nuances there when it comes to what you do at Nuveen. How would you describe what you do?

Amy:

So my job, which has actually advanced over the 17 years I have been at this firm, has actually been about bringing collectively the accountable investing framework throughout the whole enterprise. And at present that framework consists of how we combine environmental, social, and governance (ESG) components into the funding course of, how we flex our voice available in the market by means of our stewardship actions, you already know, voting, participating with corporations and different investees. After which, how we’re measuring and managing impression, which has turn into a reasonably vital idea in the entire subject of accountable investing and sustainable finance in recent times.

Caleb:

Proper, so what does accountable investing imply for Nuveen? You are privately held, so it’s important to reply to TIAA, your shoppers, and the those that make investments by means of you, together with loads of academics. However once we say accountable investing, it means loads of issues to loads of totally different corporations. However I believe it means one thing very distinctive at Nuveen.

Amy:

Yeah, for certain. And I believe the definitions range and other people can get misplaced within the jargon. However what it simply means at its core is about being higher traders, and that is by incorporating ESG components into our funding course of and utilizing our affect available in the market to drive higher efficiency long run with our corporations and in different investees. After which delivering on shoppers’ evolving wants and stakeholder wants, lots of that are actually oriented round environmental and social targets. And we have now been within the area for a very long time, Caleb. And I’d say that unique TIAA consumer base is the important thing purpose why TIAA and Nuveen have had a give attention to this for a very long time. I might say these unique traders who labored at greater training, nonprofit establishments, analysis organizations—we’re actually targeted on the environmental, social and governance elements of their portfolios for a lot of many years earlier than this turned standard.

Caleb:

So when it comes to local weather, and the E a part of ESG, the environmental a part of it, what are your shoppers actually need in the case of that?

Amy:

Yeah, in order that’s an ideal instance. The best way that that theme performs out throughout all asset courses is basically manifested by means of the local weather factor. So they need loads of issues. Broadly talking, they need to guarantee that we, as their funding supervisor, are precisely assessing local weather danger within the portfolio, managing that danger. And there is, you already know, a rising give attention to the bodily dangers, the transition danger because the world, you already know, commits to issues like web zero and totally different consumer targets round that. So they need that from us, however in addition they need us to ensure we’re targeted on the alternatives that come up from tackling a few of these environmental and social challenges. So, throughout the board, our shoppers are simply in search of us to be good stewards of their capital. However past that we have now a rising variety of shoppers who’ve very specific targets for his or her portfolio. Some shoppers, particular person traders and even establishments do need to restrict publicity to, say, sure industries which might be heavy emitters. Others need us to be a associate with them in investing in transition, so loads of this occurs by means of our actual property or infrastructure portfolios. And others, you already know, expect us to essentially assist form the regulatory surroundings, which is basically everywhere. However traders like us are in a key place to assist join the dots on how regulation ought to evolve going ahead on this matter.

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Caleb:

And also you make it very clear that you simply’re an lively supervisor of funds, you are participating with the businesses within the trade somewhat than essentially divesting, though that is most likely an possibility with a number of the ETFs. However give us an instance of the way you’re placing that lively administration into observe with a selected firm or trade?

Amy:

Yeah, I actually love that query as a result of for a very long time, massive traders like us have been scrutinized round, you already know, how are we influencing corporations? And we will actually take all these components and put them right into a portfolio. Sure portfolios might end in exclusion, however a much bigger position and a duty that we take severely is engagement. And so, we over time have all the time pursued a really lively dialog method with our corporations. We have organized as an organization round key points, key campaigns, however actually focusing in on the enterprise case, in fact, for why corporations needs to be actually being attentive to issues like girls on boards, range on boards, and now local weather. So one among our newer engagement initiatives, that builds upon a few years of participating on local weather, is to get very targeted on the corporate’s commitments to web zero. Like, what does that imply in observe, what sort of disclosure, what sort of transparency? We just lately revamped our complete stewardship report, which is a manner that we’re being accountable to our shoppers, but additionally different stakeholders. So you possibly can see, we’re not simply going and having a dialog with an organization anymore. It is focusing on corporations, actually digging in, doing our analysis. Now we’re particular about requests from them following up after which, once more, being very clear to our stakeholders that our conversations end in change on the firm. So, I got here from the entire shareholder activism background earlier than my position right here, and I am thrilled to see the main focus and the scrutiny on this a part of accountable investing in sustainable finance.

Caleb:

Yeah, effectively, your stewardship report, which you talked about earlier, particulars loads of your initiatives in accountable investing for our listeners who’ve but to learn it. I checked it out. We will hyperlink to it within the present notes right here. However what are the highest two or three takeaways? You are on that, in addition to the CEO. So it is not simply this factor off to the facet, it is you and the CEO of Nuveen placing this out collectively alongside along with your groups.

Amy:

Yeah, so let’s speak about one of many much less express takeaways, which is that this actually issues to our firm. Our method is to work by staff of over 30 folks now working hand-in-hand with funding leaders to design these initiatives to not simply have us, our staff speaking to corporations, however to advertise this all through all of our analysts and portfolio managers. So hopefully what comes throughout in that report is our dedication to utilizing our affect. But additionally we consider that we have taken stewardship to the subsequent stage in the case of, you already know, our disclosure, our complete method, you already know, how we’re focusing on corporations round not simply generic conversations. Proper? Caleb, we have now extra corporations coming to us than ever as a result of they need to make significant change. They know these items matter to stakeholders and traders. And so, what we have needed to do is be very express about focusing on, and alter the way in which we report out and be accountable to our stakeholders. And there is not any longer any sort of generic dialog—you must produce a sustainability report, proper? It is actually, you already know, what targets are you setting, how are digging into the enterprise case? So I simply say the rigor round these engagements is fairly intense.

Caleb:

Nicely, you have obtained over $1 trillion in property underneath administration. You might be crucial voice in proxy voting, the place as a shareholder you’ve got a reasonably large megaphone to attempt to steer change among the many corporations or industries you put money into. So we’re in that season proper now. What are a few of your key proxy initiatives as they relate to local weather change and international warming this yr?

Amy:

Yeah, so one of many key issues that, you already know, we have now produced a proxy season preview for the previous couple of years to sort of share our ideas. After which, in fact, we’ll be producing our annual Stewardship Report, which now features a detailed description of how we vote on each shareholder proposal on the S&P 500. So it turns into very nuanced, however we’re seeing some fascinating, I’d say, hybrid proposals this yr in the way in which we method issues. So, you already know, you used to have governance proposals, social proposals, environmental proposals. We’re seeing folks making hyperlinks between the board of administrators and their local weather data at-large corporations. So we’re actually these hybrid proposals very, very intently. These are the conversations we’re having. There is a large governance push when it comes to corporations’ political contributions, the political voice. So there is a ‘G’ overlap with this as effectively. So our method has been, we’re the whole lot very rigorously. We vote at over 10,000 conferences yearly and naturally, the whole lot involving a shareholder proposal, key director votes. We’re doing the whole lot case-by-case. I used to be speaking to our proxy voting staff yesterday. Now we have 1600 votes over the subsequent two conferences, over the subsequent two weeks—it is a heavy season!

Caleb:

And this does not occur in a bubble—we’re trying proper now at a market the place commodities have actually been the leaders right here. Vitality shares, power costs are sky excessive. That is the management available in the market proper now. A really powerful time to be a inexperienced investor while you have a look at what’s taking place today. However, how are you navigating that when the returns are actually within the so-called ‘soiled industries’? However you are an lively investor, so you do not essentially flip your again on it. You are making an attempt to interact with these corporations. Give me a way of how that is all enjoying out within the midst of this commodity bull market we’re dealing with?

What You Have to Know:

Commodity costs are on monitor for his or her highest annual achieve since 1915, in response to a report by Financial institution of America (BofA) World Analysis. As of Could 6, commodity costs have risen 46.3% year-to-date, with the most important will increase recorded for power commodities—particularly gasoline, crude oil, and heating oil. Costs of agricultural commodities equivalent to wheat and grain have additionally accelerated in latest months because of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Rising commodity costs have been a key driver of inflation in latest months, with CPI inflation recording an annual improve of 8.3% in April, the very best in over 40 years.

Amy: 

Yeah, so our complete method needs to be multifaceted. So in fact we’re how we use our affect. I imply, this can be a long run matter for the world and for traders. Earlier this yr, once we had the invasion of Ukraine, there have been lots of people , hey, will massive institutional traders pull again on their commitments to web zero, throughout this power transition? You realize, what’s the position of the big power corporations versus, say, a higher give attention to renewables? However I believe the toolkit on on this matter specifically, local weather, is fairly multifaceted. So, in fact, we proceed to by engaged, proceed to be invested in massive power shares. That is our fiduciary obligation. However on the identical time, working hand-in-hand with these corporations to essentially perceive their transition plan, since we will want these massive corporations to be a part of the answer, and, in fact, we’re additionally going to want the pure play, the smaller, extra revolutionary corporations. And so we have now to be, you already know, in dialog on that. We’re weighing in closely on loads of the rising SEC proposals on disclosure as a result of we have skilled these subjects from so many angles from the private and non-private markets. And so, our playbook stays the identical even on this market. And one factor particular person traders ought to take into consideration is, you already know, ESG evaluation and the way that is thought of, versus solely having the peer corporations in your portfolio. ESG has turn into way more than a product line, and I believe that we want these massive corporations, these heavy emitters, to be a part of the answer. So we actually aren’t shunning them. And we simply deepen the engagement, a minimum of at these intervals available in the market.

Caleb:

Once you’re the scale you’re at Nuveen and also you’re managing cash for therefore many individuals, households and academics and former academics, along with different retail traders, you possibly can’t ignore what is going on on in these main industries. I am glad you introduced up the SEC. What’s lacking in your standpoint on the regulatory entrance? We all know the SEC has prolonged the remark interval for local weather disclosures—this can be a new factor they’re making an attempt to get corporations to do. Europe and different international locations are a lot additional alongside. What do we want right here within the U.S. for way more direct engagement with corporations and way more transparency, which I do know is core to what you do.

Amy:

So, we actually do want higher information. What we’re experiencing on the regulatory entrance is a really particular method by the SEC, contrasted to what we’re seeing popping out of Europe. So the SEC is focusing rather a lot on particular person firm disclosure, whereas in Europe we’re dealing with new sorts of reporting on the fund stage that do not really match up with the info that is accessible available in the market. And so we want focused disclosure, we want higher info. I imply, we’re very glad in regards to the extension of the deadline as a result of we take a really holistic view and attempt to have a balanced method. Once more, it will get again to my level about how we’d vote on high-profile shareholder proposals. Now we have to be conscious of what we want as traders. Do we want higher scope, higher info? In fact, we agree with the SEC that corporations needs to be required to report this information as trade methodologies exist already, and plenty of corporations voluntarily present this anyway. So generally it is a head scratcher when there’s pushback, as a result of loads of corporations, frankly, are out forward of regulators on these subjects. However we have now to ensure there is not any unintended penalties popping out of those proposals as effectively. And issues just like the burdens on reporting necessities that will deter corporations from making commitments. And the opposite factor that this brings up, proper, is I’ve by no means seen in my total profession the mix of the ESG folks, the funding folks, after which participating with authorized danger compliance. I imply, all of us should discover a assembly floor on loads of these subjects and what’s applicable. So I believe this has helped advance the dialog, actually by governments taking motion and the neighborhood needing to reply. However we do should watch out generally of going too far or danger unintended penalties. And so you may see our remark letter is public and we’re engaged on our reply proper now.

Caleb:

Nuveen manages loads of farmland. Quite a lot of of us might not know that, however you are one of many largest farmland managers within the nation. That requires loads of power to take care of, clearly. How does accountable investing play into that administration of all this farmland? And we all know it is a reasonably large asset right here in america.

Amy:

I am glad you introduced up that query, as a result of loads of focus within the U.S. now have been the general public markets and ESG. However Nuveen has a really massive options ebook—actual property, agriculture, infrastructure. And there, you already know, we outright personal property, we personal land, proper? We personal buildings. And so our expertise with sustainability and the way that sort of grew up on the choice facet is frankly, it is how we be taught from the general public market facet, however we’re straight concerned and we have now made the enterprise case about why you have to have sustainability practices constructed into the administration. I used to be simply out in California final week the place we have now loads of vineyards, and we develop loads of grapes and different crops. And the element and the precision round soil well being, irrigation, and the way in which that you simply enhance crop yields and the way you have interaction with the employee. I imply, we live these subjects as an outright proprietor of a few of these property and that—that has an impression on us throughout our complete method, as a result of we’re on the bottom working with operators and making the enterprise case for sustainability, for not simply the farmland, however once more, our actual property and infrastructure are additionally a renewable enterprise. And so we actually get to the touch and really feel these points as a supervisor, in ways in which I do not assume others do.

Caleb:

Proper. And also you what you don’t need is stranded property. That is loads of farmland. That is loads of ‘asset’ in your books, so to talk. And, if not managed correctly, that is not going to be a really worthwhile asset going ahead, so it is sensible that you simply’re concerned on the bottom stage there. When it comes to what you assume is lacking, when it comes to the dialog round accountable investing because it pertains to local weather and the surroundings, what’s one thing that no one is speaking about, Amy, that folk have to be being attentive to now?

Amy:

Now we have to begin speaking about how we will put money into the options. I believe one factor that frustrates me over time—I believe we have made progress—however I believe for a lot of, and those that have maybe been on the sidelines our trade and haven’t begun to interact. We’re nonetheless about making judgment calls on what we should always or should not put money into. And I believe what’s lacking from the dialog is we have now to give attention to on the info. However I really feel like we as an trade, we have now a novel second in time right here to converge to, actually, I am not saying everyone has to do the whole lot the identical manner, however extra focus and readability about what sustainable finance or accountable investing is making an attempt to attain, after which the choices. I believe loads of what’s additionally lacking is the way in which through which we deliver shoppers alongside the journey. I imply, at this level, possibly a consumer—if they don’t seem to be already in some sort of ESG technique—they could ask an advisor, “Hey, I’ve heard about this, ought to I be in it or not?” And you already know, we all know most likely the place a few of these conversations go. After which lastly, I believe what’s lacking is, you already know, I have been a practitioner on the institutional facet for 26 years now, and I really feel we have to alter our language with the way to attain that retail investor. I believe all of us have a really ‘practitioner converse’ manner about this proper now, and so I believe some higher engagement with that finish consumer will simply drive extra curiosity in our subject.

Caleb: 

It is an alphabet soup of acronyms on the market. We attempt to unpack the acronyms right here on The Inexperienced Investor. So what can we anticipate from Nuveen within the subsequent two-to-three years because it pertains to accountable investing, however actually local weather and inexperienced—that ‘E’ a part of ESG—what’s popping out in addition to the ETFs?

Amy:

We’re trying throughout the platform, you already know, what are some new methods that we will deliver to shoppers, notably on the choice facet, however constructing out a broader set of merchandise And once more, these local weather targets, in case you unpack them, they’re low carbon, carbon transition, carbon damaging, corporations which may need to have a damaging emitting-type product, if you’ll, possibly coming from maybe our timber portfolio. And so we’ll proceed to construct out the best options, the best recommendation for shoppers on that. And I do know that is in regards to the inexperienced investor, however, you already know, we’re trying forward on the ‘S’ in ESG as effectively. We have all been residing by means of the ‘S’ in ESG over the previous couple of years, notably with the pandemic, the renewed social justice motion on this nation from two years in the past. Individuals have additionally skilled workplace-related points. So we all know that loads of shoppers are enthusiastic about what is the subsequent large problem, and we do consider that it’s round inclusive progress as a method to set up throughout the platform right here at Nuveen. And so, positively extra on the local weather. TIAA, our dad or mum, has set the online zero carbon objective by 2050. And so, we’re not simply saying we’re providing this to shoppers externally, however we’re consuming our personal cooking on that. And as we work our manner by means of the detailed implementation that is required to attain that sort of objective for such a big portfolio, we will be very vocal available in the market, sharing our classes realized, and, you already know, actually dialing up on the thought management entrance as a result of all of us have to be taught from one another right here on this thought journey.

Caleb:

Amy O’Brien, the World Head of Accountable Investing for Nuveen, thanks a lot for becoming a member of the Inexperienced Investor. We actually admire it.

Amy:

Thanks, Caleb. It has been a pleasure.

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